Kemmler (Abuse) [busted]

[Jeff Hardy]

ive looked at a couple of his games
he asks most people he thinks might beat him to deadbeat

[Kemmler]

ive looked at a couple of his games
he asks most people he thinks might beat him to deadbeat

I don't think I've ever done this apart from here, team mate

[killmanic]

ive looked at a couple of his games
he asks most people he thinks might beat him to deadbeat

if you found the game #s what are they it will help the case, if not then why say this

[Kemmler]

ive looked at a couple of his games
he asks most people he thinks might beat him to deadbeat

if you found the game #s what are they it will help the case, if not then why say this

whatever. I don't know why you started such a pointless thread when you yourself have tried to convince normal players to throw games in your favour.

[KoE_Sirius]

ive looked at a couple of his games
he asks most people he thinks might beat him to deadbeat

if you found the game #s what are they it will help the case, if not then why say this

whatever. I don't know why you started such a pointless thread when you yourself have tried to convince normal players to throw games in your favour.

QFT ...Yeah apparently Jeff Hardy is a serial game chat abuser and has also thrown copious amounts of games .Plus he has a dog named Fred .Apparently .

[killmanic]

ive looked at a couple of his games
he asks most people he thinks might beat him to deadbeat

if you found the game #s what are they it will help the case, if not then why say this

whatever. I don't know why you started such a pointless thread when you yourself have tried to convince normal players to throw games in your favour.

I have never asked anyone to throw games, I dont know where this accusation is coming from.

[KoE_Sirius]

ive looked at a couple of his games
he asks most people he thinks might beat him to deadbeat

if you found the game #s what are they it will help the case, if not then why say this

whatever. I don't know why you started such a pointless thread when you yourself have tried to convince normal players to throw games in your favour.

I have never asked anyone to throw games, I dont know where this accusation is coming from.

The point is I don't know where any of the accusations are coming from other then the the first post !
I believe they are being pulled out of a hat ..A bit like rabbits at a show .

[Kemmler]

ive looked at a couple of his games
he asks most people he thinks might beat him to deadbeat

if you found the game #s what are they it will help the case, if not then why say this

whatever. I don't know why you started such a pointless thread when you yourself have tried to convince normal players to throw games in your favour.

I have never asked anyone to throw games, I dont know where this accusation is coming from.

I know it'sd got to do with a tourney, but this is to do with a multi. Same thing.

And I'd never accuse you for that.

[alster]

Kemmler has done nothing wrong .He caught a cheat in his game and tried to convince the cheat to quit .The particular cheat we speak of had no self worth so he didn't step down .

I concur. Since when is it against some unwritten rules to challenge a possible multi? This whole forum section is devoted to those kinds of discussions. Generally it is also seen as a problem (although perhaps not the most pressing one) that multis can keep playing once busted. Convincing a suspected multi to stop doing that voluntarily cannot possibly be a rule violation. That would border on the ridiculous.

As for possible rudeness, I've seen (and typed) much worse games chats than this one.

For the record, personally I don't think it reflects very nicely on the CC mods when killmanic starts a thread like this.

[Optimus Prime]

For the record, personally I don't think it reflects very nicely on the CC mods when killmanic starts a thread like this.

Anyone who is a member of Conquer Club can submit a Cheating or Abuse Report if they believe that something is being done wrong. They may not be right, but they are entitled to making the report. This includes anyone on Team CC, as we are members first, Team CC members second.

[hulmey]

For the record, personally I don't think it reflects very nicely on the CC mods when killmanic starts a thread like this.

Anyone who is a member of Conquer Club can submit a Cheating or Abuse Report if they believe that something is being done wrong. They may not be right, but they are entitled to making the report. This includes anyone on Team CC, as we are members first, Team CC members second.

should'nt mods be a bit clued up on how the system and rules work? it makes them look rather silly!!

[alster]

For the record, personally I don't think it reflects very nicely on the CC mods when killmanic starts a thread like this.

Anyone who is a member of Conquer Club can submit a Cheating or Abuse Report if they believe that something is being done wrong. They may not be right, but they are entitled to making the report. This includes anyone on Team CC, as we are members first, Team CC members second.

Sure, that may be so. With that said though, it looks strange when a CC mod throws out a questionable C&A-report accusing an individual member in public. I'm sure you guys have internal forums where you can discuss border-line cases. When the mods goes out in public, throwing themselves into such discussions it only serves to make the CC mods look incoherent. The appearance of collective and coherent rule interpretation/enforcement may be more important than being a CC player first and a mod second. But that’s just my two cents. The degree of professionalism you guys wish to present to the regular players is up to you.

[Jeff Hardy]

kemmler will go because of deadbeating all those games so him doing this too is irrelevant

[yeti_c]

For the record, personally I don't think it reflects very nicely on the CC mods when killmanic starts a thread like this.

Anyone who is a member of Conquer Club can submit a Cheating or Abuse Report if they believe that something is being done wrong. They may not be right, but they are entitled to making the report. This includes anyone on Team CC, as we are members first, Team CC members second.

Sure, that may be so. With that said though, it looks strange when a CC mod throws out a questionable C&A-report accusing an individual member in public. I'm sure you guys have internal forums where you can discuss border-line cases. When the mods goes out in public, throwing themselves into such discussions it only serves to make the CC mods look incoherent. The appearance of collective and coherent rule interpretation/enforcement may be more important than being a CC player first and a mod second. But that’s just my two cents. The degree of professionalism you guys wish to present to the regular players is up to you.

Surely in this instance it is more a vehicle to tell the masses that this has happened - and then act as a place for all of the evidence to be accrued before judge and executioner can deal with it...

C.

[alster]

Surely in this instance it is more a vehicle to tell the masses that this has happened - and then act as a place for all of the evidence to be accrued before judge and executioner can deal with it...

C.

Nope. The accusation came after a discussion in another thread in C&A (one Kemmler started re the player in question). And the initial message isn't just a "FYI - please discuss", it's a pretty hardline accusation.

[killmanic]

Surely in this instance it is more a vehicle to tell the masses that this has happened - and then act as a place for all of the evidence to be accrued before judge and executioner can deal with it...

C.

Nope. The accusation came after a discussion in another thread in C&A (one Kemmler started re the player in question). And the initial message isn't just a "FYI - please discuss", it's a pretty hardline accusation.

Be aware i don't have to post here I could go directly to the hunters and admin with it but i chose to post here as this is unsettled land about what happens in this situation and I wanted everyone to be able to see what the hunters and admin decide.

[KoE_Sirius]

Surely in this instance it is more a vehicle to tell the masses that this has happened - and then act as a place for all of the evidence to be accrued before judge and executioner can deal with it...

C.

Nope. The accusation came after a discussion in another thread in C&A (one Kemmler started re the player in question). And the initial message isn't just a "FYI - please discuss", it's a pretty hardline accusation.

Be aware i don't have to post here I could go directly to the hunters and admin with it but i chose to post here as this is unsettled land about what happens in this situation and I wanted everyone to be able to see what the hunters and admin decide.

The majority of public opinion was on Kemmlers side .He seemed to be a little upset by these accusations and prob' dumped his points out of discussed .Not that I know why he did it .Thats just my stance on the matter .


This whole episode reminds me of the farmer who shot a thief after having his home was invaded 5 or 6 times and got put in prison for it .Only Kemmler didn't use a gun .He used words .He basically asked a thief to stop stealing his point and leave .
I see abuse here ,just not from the name in the title .

[Frop]

The majority of public opinion was on Kemmlers side .He seemed to be a little upset by these accusations and prob' dumped his points out of discussed .Not that I know why he did it .Thats just my stance on the matter .

This whole episode reminds me of the farmer who shot a thief after having his home was invaded 5 or 6 times and got put in prison for it .Only Kemmler didn't use a gun .He used words .He basically asked a thief to stop stealing his point and leave .
I see abuse here ,just not from the name in the title .

Not the majority. I didn't count the votes yet, but just as much people were opposed to what Kemmler was doing. You also seem to be overlooking the fact that Kemmler was trying to coerce this 'thief' into giving up the game and that he would drop the C&A thread in return. Also I sincerely doubt that Kemmler, apparently a man of little to no integrity, would've even bothered to file a report if he had won the game.

Lastly, punctuation marks (like the period and comma) are always followed by a space and definitely not the other way round.

[alster]

Be aware i don't have to post here I could go directly to the hunters and admin with it but i chose to post here as this is unsettled land about what happens in this situation and I wanted everyone to be able to see what the hunters and admin decide.

Yes. That's what I figured you would/should (IMHO that is) have done. Now, if you are "wrong" (i.e. if the hunters or whoever don't punish this) one mod have voiced that this behavior is foul while others have cleared it. It just looks strange having the mods arguing against each other. Long-run, I think it may bad showing such divergencies.

[hulmey]

Be aware i don't have to post here I could go directly to the hunters and admin with it but i chose to post here as this is unsettled land about what happens in this situation and I wanted everyone to be able to see what the hunters and admin decide.

Yes. That's what I figured you would/should (IMHO that is) have done. Now, if you are "wrong" (i.e. if the hunters or whoever don't punish this) one mod have voiced that this behavior is foul while others have cleared it. It just looks strange having the mods arguing against each other. Long-run, I think it may bad showing such divergencies.

agreed

[KoE_Sirius]

The majority of public opinion was on Kemmlers side .He seemed to be a little upset by these accusations and prob' dumped his points out of discussed .Not that I know why he did it .Thats just my stance on the matter .

This whole episode reminds me of the farmer who shot a thief after having his home was invaded 5 or 6 times and got put in prison for it .Only Kemmler didn't use a gun .He used words .He basically asked a thief to stop stealing his point and leave .
I see abuse here ,just not from the name in the title .

Not the majority. I didn't count the votes yet, but just as much people were opposed to what Kemmler was doing. You also seem to be overlooking the fact that Kemmler was trying to coerce this 'thief' into giving up the game and that he would drop the C&A thread in return. Also I sincerely doubt that Kemmler, apparently a man of little to no integrity, would've even bothered to file a report if he had won the game.

Lastly, punctuation marks (like the period and comma) are always followed by a space and definitely not the other way round.

I did count the votes .
lastly wow ,when did you learn English Flop .You couldn't string along a sentence whe nyou first spoke to me let alone correct punch"u"ation ...are you really Frop or is a multi siting you r acount ?..I need to drag out some old post and let the multi hunter decide.

[Frop]

I did count the votes .
lastly wow ,when did you learn English Flop .You couldn't string along a sentence whe nyou first spoke to me let alone correct punch"u"ation ...are you really Frop or is a multi siting you r acount ?..I need to drag out some old post and let the multi hunter decide.

I'm not sure whether or not you were on an ether binge back then, but I'm quite sure I'm just as illiterate as when I first had the displeasure of meeting you.

Wrong

(...) wow ,when (...) Flop .You (...) punch"u"ation ...are (...) acount ?..I

Right

(...) wow, when (...) Flop. You (...) punch"u"ation... are (...) acount? I

[KoE_Sirius]

I did count the votes .
lastly wow ,when did you learn English Flop .You couldn't string along a sentence whe nyou first spoke to me let alone correct punch"u"ation ...are you really Frop or is a multi siting you r acount ?..I need to drag out some old post and let the multi hunter decide.

I'm not sure whether or not you were on an ether binge back then, but I'm quite sure I'm just as illiterate as when I first had the displeasure of meeting you.

This is a game site not a class room

(...) wow ,when (...) Flop .You (...) punch"u"ation ...are (...) acount ?..I

Yep ,still in the game site

(...) wow, when (...) Flop. You (...) punch"u"ation... are (...) acount? I

I have never met you .Nor will I .Lets not confused Grammar with RL .
6 -2 to Kemmler .Mods should remain impartial .
Brush up on the Maths .

[Frop]

I have never met you .Nor will I .Lets not confused Grammar with RL .
6 -2 to Kemmler .Mods should remain impartial .
Brush up on the Maths .

Sure thing, Yoda.

[motionstop]

sorry kemmler, what you did is cheap and wrong. even if he was a multi in the end, you have no right to demand any player, multi or not, to sacrifice his points. he's innocent until proven guilty. that's how it works in most parts of the world, and that's how it works here.

how did he beat you unfairly? it was a 1v1 game. Under those circumstances, there is nothing unfair except unwarranted demands. what you did was wrong, even if he was a multi. how often do you have this sort of dialogue with players? are there others you've suckered into throwing games based on what you termed "respect"?

i don't know what sort of action is to be taken. it's not my place. if i were a mod, i wouldn't know what to do. i suppose the only thing you can do is make note of it. good thing it's on the forum, it's gives players a chance to foe's list kemmler if they like. or not. at least it's out in the open.


motionstop