How to create a second account for my son?

[loopinvariant]

How do I create an account for my son to play without it tagging both of our accounts as multiples? We're both behind the same NAT (but different MAC addresses), so both machines are going to have the same IP and we will likely be on at the same time.

If we were in the same game together (which will happen), we'd let the other players know up front of course out of common courtesy.

Thanks.

[joeyjordison]

you wouldn't be able to play against each other. you would have to be on the same team.

i think its actually best if you didn't ever join the same games. if you stayed separate and declared both usernames in the forum and being from the same IP but different people then you would be alrite

i would just set up the second account although have totally different sounding names for a start or you will get lots of accusations. if you feel you HAVE to join games together ONLY do it in team games and preferably play against people who you know. possibly make a callout to people and declare beforehand the situation?

[lackattack]

Never make an account for anyone. Let them make their own account. "It's my son's account" won't fly when we bust you for using both.

[freezie]

I beleive he means having his son create an account, but since it would be on the same internet conection ( and same billing account if they both are premium, I assume his son is not old enough to get prem himself ), it would create a problem with the multi system.


Team games wouldn't be a problem I guess, but free-for-all is a huge problem...


I don't see any solution though..

[loopinvariant]

Never make an account for anyone. Let them make their own account.

He's 10, so any account created by him involves me.

"It's my son's account" won't fly when we bust you for using both.

Emphasis added mine. What you said implies that there really isn't a way to do it without being accused of multiples any way, so its not worth the hassle.

[loopinvariant]

I beleive he means having his son create an account, but since it would be on the same internet conection ( and same billing account if they both are premium, I assume his son is not old enough to get prem himself ), it would create a problem with the multi system.


Team games wouldn't be a problem I guess, but free-for-all is a huge problem...


I don't see any solution though..

Thanks, that's what I meant.

[sully800]

loopinvariant: If you will be on two seperate machines at the same time, as you claim, it would be PROOF that you aren't multis. Afterall one person could not operate two different computers at once (at least not for more than a second or two of clicking).

I'd like to think we are fairly good about distinguishing between family members and a single person. It can be difficult and mistakes are made (infrequently I hope) but we do try very hard to make those distinctions.

But if he creates his own account and plays it on his own time on a seperate computer it should be recognizable.

[urbansloth]

loopinvariant: If you will be on two seperate machines at the same time, as you claim, it would be PROOF that you aren't multis. Afterall one person could not operate two different computers at once (at least not for more than a second or two of clicking).

I'd like to think we are fairly good about distinguishing between family members and a single person. It can be difficult and mistakes are made (infrequently I hope) but we do try very hard to make those distinctions.

But if he creates his own account and plays it on his own time on a seperate computer it should be recognizable.

I'm a networker not a web-head, but would the cookies get messed up and log out the user from each PC, because the server sees the connections from the same IP address, but with different cookied credentials...?

I'm not sure if this is similar, but for some reason I've never bothered to figure out, I can't keep a browser logged into 'My Games', and a browser logged into the forums at the same time...anyone else see this? ie, if I go to refresh my games in the other window now, I'll be asked for credentials again...

[sully800]

I'm a networker not a web-head, but would the cookies get messed up and log out the user from each PC, because the server sees the connections from the same IP address, but with different cookied credentials...?

I'm not sure if this is similar, but for some reason I've never bothered to figure out, I can't keep a browser logged into 'My Games', and a browser logged into the forums at the same time...anyone else see this? ie, if I go to refresh my games in the other window now, I'll be asked for credentials again...

I don't think the first paragraph is a problem. Many people on here play with classmates in school- rows of different computers all functioning from the same IP and I don't think they have any problems.

As for the second paragraph, I usually have at least two CC tabs open. Sometimes 5 or more, and they all function fine. I can refresh a tab on any page and stay logged in on all of the other pages. So I don't know how to help you (I am certainly not a web-head, I can only tell you what does/doesn't happen to me )

[loopinvariant]

I'm a networker not a web-head, but would the cookies get messed up and log out the user from each PC, because the server sees the connections from the same IP address, but with different cookied credentials...?

No, the device that sits between the client computers and the host server performs what is called Network Address Translation (NAT). It hides each client "behind" it with a single IP address that is used to represent the client network to the internet.

It can do this because when each client makes an outgoing connection, it uses a unique "return address", or port, on the NAT device. If multiple clients are behind the NAT, both making outgoing connections to the same host (and the same host service, or port, such as HTTP), each of the clients will have a different port number they will be calling from. When the server sends information back, it will send it to the shared IP address (the address of the NAT, which the world sees) but to the client port and the NAT will translate that to the private client network address of the client.

So, all the cookies make it to the right cookie jar.

[sully800]

We need an emoticon that has a smiley face with a lot of sh*t flying over its head.

For now, this is the best I can do:

[cleveridea]

He's 10, so any account created by him involves me.

In my opinion, this site is not appropriate for a 10 year old. You might want reconsider the entire proposition.

[loopinvariant]

In my opinion, this site is not appropriate for a 10 year old. You might want reconsider the entire proposition.

He isn't allowed to use any form of chat/forums, so he certainly wouldn't be here, just in game. In game, I'd probably write a Grease Monkey filter to cut out the chat (I'm a programmer with 20 years experience and familiarized myself with FireFox filters and GreaseMonkey, since I had some extension ideas for the game like Robert's scripts are doing, but different...), so that would be doable.

But yes, I don't think CC is the right place for him in any event. I am trying out Lux Delux right now, and if it turns out well then we'll move over there. They allow multiple accounts based off one-time purchases. Even if ranks are inflated, which I really don't care about, it means my son and I can play together.

[joeyjordison]

if you want to play singles with your son here you would have to find people who are perfectly happy playing with you knowing the situation...

anyway gd luck working it out

[badonkadonk]

I believe that a 10-year-old would offer the appropriate level of competition given my skills. I promise to keep my chat clean and conduct myself like a good sportsman.

Send the game numbers when the little guy is ready.