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qwert wrote:Can i ask you something?What is porpose for you to open these Political topic in ConquerClub? Why you mix politic with Risk? Why you not open topic like HOT AND SEXY,or something like that.
People die all the time, from age, from disease, from man made things. If someone attacks Australia, then so be it, why should it worry me anymore than if it was in another country? You could call me unfeeling, but if more humans died, then it'll eventually be better for the earth.alex_white101 wrote:no way! you would be much more worried concerned and saddened by an attack which say killed 50 people in your own country, compared to say an attack in a far off land that u dnt rlly know much about and have no connection with where an attack killed 200. u cant deny that surely.......
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It isn't an unconnected event, though. Its a direct result of the invasion, which was our doing...alex_white101 wrote:no way! you would be much more worried concerned and saddened by an attack which say killed 50 people in your own country, compared to say an attack in a far off land that u dnt rlly know much about and have no connection with where an attack killed 200. u cant deny that surely.......
qwert wrote:Can i ask you something?What is porpose for you to open these Political topic in ConquerClub? Why you mix politic with Risk? Why you not open topic like HOT AND SEXY,or something like that.
Ha, so little you know.cena-rules wrote:its like a civil war
who cares
pull the troops out and let them kill each other
no-one outside of Iraq really needs Iraq or Iran
just wasted land and army money
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oh yes for global warmingSkittles! wrote:Ha, so little you know.cena-rules wrote:its like a civil war
who cares
pull the troops out and let them kill each other
no-one outside of Iraq really needs Iraq or Iran
just wasted land and army money
Oil, which the Middle East is abundant of. Oil, what all the major superpowers want.
Hey, oil runs most things, fossil fuels run, almost everything. It's the way things go now, unfortunatly. And when has men been valuable? The less; the better.cena-rules wrote:oh yes for global warmingSkittles! wrote:Ha, so little you know.cena-rules wrote:its like a civil war
who cares
pull the troops out and let them kill each other
no-one outside of Iraq really needs Iraq or Iran
just wasted land and army money
Oil, which the Middle East is abundant of. Oil, what all the major superpowers want.
yes thats right
so they are wasting valuble men and money to destroy the earth
that makes sense
not
KraphtOne wrote:when you sign up a new account one of the check boxes should be "do you want to foe colton24 (it is highly recommended) "
1 WORDSkittles! wrote:Hey, oil runs most things, fossil fuels run, almost everything. It's the way things go now, unfortunatly. And when has men been valuable? The less; the better.cena-rules wrote:oh yes for global warmingSkittles! wrote:Ha, so little you know.cena-rules wrote:its like a civil war
who cares
pull the troops out and let them kill each other
no-one outside of Iraq really needs Iraq or Iran
just wasted land and army money
Oil, which the Middle East is abundant of. Oil, what all the major superpowers want.
yes thats right
so they are wasting valuble men and money to destroy the earth
that makes sense
not
I hold the entirely depressing view that Iraqi casualties, civilian or otherwise, were never going to be widely reported by the British/American media. Not particularly because it's Iraq, but because Iraqis aren't Westerners.Guiscard wrote:I guess my question for discussion, then, is are we entirely de-sensitised to civilian casualties? And what is the impact of this? Does it make military actions like Iraq less likely to be met with dissent if its not 'our boys' being blown to pieces?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 279864.stm
The people that died were civvies.dustn64 wrote:There is no draft, didn't they choose to join the armed forces?
Edit: About all the people that died ^^
An interesting analysis, most of which I agree with. However, keep in mind that the type of military operations that we've been in since WWII have been very unconventional. Mostly insurgencies and poorly trained guerrillas. Police operations on steroids, if you will.Stopper wrote: As to the bolded questions: I'll put myself on the line here, because I'm not an expert on military history, but I've always had the impression that since the Second World War, the Americans/British have become more reluctant to put soldiers' lives on the line, and as much as possible, to keep their own casualties low - mainly for political reasons. Even in Vietnam - I realise the Americans sustained a lot of people killed, about 58,000, and that partly led to the Americans leaving, but in the context of the whole war, that actually wasn't very high.
People would say that that is a good development, as it makes our leaders less likely to be militarily adventurous, but the same level of concern for casualties doesn't seem to have ever been extended to civilians in the places that America/Britain have fought. Massive bombing campaigns in both Vietnam and Iraq had been gone ahead with, and there's no doubt huge numbers of civilians have died in these, whatever our leaders and media may say.
I tend to think that the risk of Iraqis being killed never really figured as a significant factor in popular opposition to the war in the first place, so the lack of coverage since isn't that surprising.
ya, like if 105 americans died, that would be the top story for a week. 105 Iraqis? Nada. Also, petty stories that dont really matter take up lots of American news time. Like when Anna Nicole Smith died? She was a fucking stripper, nothing more, but she got headlines because of her money, thats all.sam_levi_11 wrote:jnd backed up my theorym it seems the reasons are it happens too often, we are more worried if we have a conection to those people be it religeon, nation or whatever and lastly the news have many ways in which they help us to not care but not giving a sht themselves

Skittles! wrote:Hey, oil runs most things, fossil fuels run, almost everything. It's the way things go now
You mean the kind that you drive on ASPHALT that run on GASOLINE and have 4-quarts of OIL in the engine? The ones with four tires made with PETROLEUM? The ones built by robots using hydraulic OIL, delivered to the dealership on a DIESEL tractor-trailer?cena-rules wrote:1 WORD
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